Policy Dispatch Podcast Sam Morgan - 20/October/2022

Cleaning up aviation

Aviation has connected people and cities from around the Earth, but it has also made our planet warmer. In this episode, we will find out which carrots and sticks are needed to decarbonise air transport


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Aviation has shortened distances across continents and connected people and cities all around the globe. However, it has also made our planet warmer. With a carbon footprint comparable to that of several countries – as well as a significant non-CO2 environmental impact – cleaning up aviation will be crucial to achieving our climate goals.

In this episode, we dive deep into the outlook for ‘green’ aviation after the COVID-19 pandemic: which sticks and carrots are needed to decarbonise air transport, and why international organisations have been so slow in taking action? How can we incentive airlines to switch to sustainable alternatives to kerosene?

To answer these questions, we sat with Jo Dardenne, Aviation Director at NGO Transport & Environment (T&E). Jo joined T&E in 2019 and manages their sustainable aviation campaigns which aim to address the impact of one of the transport sector’s fastest growing greenhouse gas emitters. Her focus includes aviation taxation, the EU emissions trading system, and sustainable fuels.

Enjoy the dispatch!

Disclaimer – This episode was recorded on 7 October – just a few hours before the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) formally adopted a net zero by 2050 objective for global aviation.

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